Marty Brashem

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So, Marty, um, which floor do you live on in the bellatini.

I live in apartment number 421.

Okay. So I don't know if I mentioned it to you, but my mother in law moved in last January. Um, I think she's on the third floor.

What's her name?

Her name is Helen.

Helen. What?

Helen. Wilson.

I think I may know her.

She's very spry and she's very energetic.

Oh. Very good. Well, I think I may know Helen. I know Helen, and it may well be her.

Okay.

All right.

So we have that in common. So, Marty, um, I've been tasked by the Washington State Jewish Historical Society to talk to you, um, about a little bit about your life and a lot about the Jewish community in Tacoma. So I'm going to ask you just a couple questions, but I'm kind of going to let you tell me whatever you want to tell me. So first of all, give me a very brief introduction about you when you were born, where you were born, and a little bit about your childhood.

I was born in Los Angeles, California, December 25th, 1926. And we, uh, my father had been had moved to Seattle. He was four years of age in 1890, 1893. And then they and my parents got married in Oregon and lived in California for a short while, and, and, uh, moved back to Seattle, uh, when I was seven years old. So that would have been 1933. We were back in Seattle, and I was raised in Seattle. And, um, went to high school here. Was, uh, entered entered the US Army, uh, March 2nd, 1945. Completed my infantry basic training in uh, Camp Hood, Texas in August of 1945. Um, at that time, uh, the bomb had been dropped in Japan. So instead of part of the invasion forces, I spent a year in Japan as an occupation True, I, I got out of the Army. Uh, December 2nd, 1946. I went to the University of Washington and graduated from there in June of 1950, and I. Eventually met my wife, Joanie, at a friend's house. We were married, uh, April 20th, 1952, and had our first son, Mark, in, um, uh, March of 1954. Have five children. Mark is the oldest. Kerry is two years younger. She was born in 1954. And number three, Linda was born January 1958. Dena was born March 1959. And our youngest son, born August 30th, 1960. Uh, we moved to Tacoma in, um. Well, I got a I got a job in Tacoma in, um, uh, the spring, in the summer of 1956 and was employed by, um, Mr. Leslie Sussman, General Metals of Tacoma. We moved to Tacoma, um, in, uh, Memorial Day 1957 and moved into our house. Um, January 1958. And I started to work in a general metals in their scrap business primarily. Excuse me. Involved in the in the export and the shipping of scrap metal to Asia. And gradually, um, grew into the employment and eventually became manager of general metals of Tacoma for Mr. Sussman as he was busy with other activities. We joined temple what is now Temple Beth El. At that time I can't remember the name of the temple, uh, in about 1958. And, um, I am. Uh, Joni and I became lifetime members of Temple Beth El, and I am still a lifetime member from many, many years ago. And Temple Beth El was a very nice synagogue for us. Uh, our rabbi was Richard Rosenthal, who was capable of melding together the conservative, uh, Jews in Tacoma to the to the reform synagogue, which was now Temple Beth El and he was. And so some of the Jews, uh, were still rather conservative, but but most of them joined Temple Beth El, which was a very nice synagogue. They currently, to the best of my knowledge, they have some 350 to 400 members now, and a new rabbi which just joined the synagogue in the last few months. And we were very active in the synagogue. Uh, Joni was in charge of the Judaica shop for many years. And, um, and also we used to put on, um, Friday night dinners, and we would always get Kentucky Fried Chicken. Uh, after we finished that, Joni would never touch Kentucky Fried Chicken. She'd had her fill of it. But we had we had a lot of good relationships chips with, with a lot of Jewish people in Tacoma. Um, unfortunately, there are very few of them still alive. But we had a very good relationship with the synagogue, and we used to go to temple pretty much on Friday night and enjoy our, our synagogue with them. And, and, uh, Joan was quite strict. And so the kids, they behaved themselves, they didn't dare run around the synagogue like some other children did. And we had a very, very good relationship. We were good friends with, uh, Rabbi Rosenthal and his family and many other families in the city of Tacoma. And, uh, I don't know what else to tell you. So you you. If you want to ask a few questions, I will try to answer them.

Perfect. Thank you. That was a great, great overview I appreciate that. So, Marty, when you joined Temple Beth El, were you was your family reformed Jews or conservative Jews?

We were reformed. We were both raised. Both Joni and I were raised at temple de Hirsch in Seattle, so we were very much reformed.

Tell me a little bit more about how Rabbi Rosenthal melded the two. The reform, um, well, the conservative.

Uh, he he was he was a very flexible individual and and the conservative synagogue was in a great deal of financial difficulty, and they could no longer continue to to run their congregation financially. So therefore he was able to convince them that, um, that it would to be to their benefit for us to join a temple together. And so it changed the name from I don't remember what it was originally to Temple Beth El. And he put quite a bit of conservative activities into the service to make the conservative members comfortable.

And that seemed to work.

Well, it seemed to work because the temple is still the only existing temple, the only Jew. Well, I shouldn't say it's the only Jewish temple now because Chabad House, uh, came into existence. Um, or I would say, see, today's we've been gone. We've been gone from Tacoma for 11 years. And so I'd say Hobart House has been in Tacoma probably about 20 years now.

So you mentioned going to Shabbat services on Friday night. Um, what other activities did you and your wife or your children participate in? In in the temple?

Well, I was a journey. As I say, she was in charge of Judaica shop for many years all by herself. And she would open the Judaica shop at certain hours and, uh, of course, sell what they had to sell. I became active in the temple and was president at one point in time. Some years ago.

And the children, did they go to religious school?

Well, uh, they we all they all went to religion school, and they all finished high school, uh, in Tacoma and high school in the synagogue. And once they once they got out of high school and went to college, none of them ever returned to Tacoma. So my oldest son, Mark, he stayed in Seattle or Bellevue as my youngest daughter, Dena and Carrie. She moved to Seattle and, um, Marvin moved to moved to Seattle. And Linda moved to Phoenix, Arizona. So. None of them stayed in Tacoma. And we stayed in Tacoma until, um, um, the spring of, um, let me think, uh, 2011 and 2011. And then we moved to Kirkland, and we were there for seven years or so until Joanie became ill, and we had to put her into a group home. And then I sold the condo and have been here in the bellatini for shortly over three years.

So backtracking a little bit. Um, did the kids have B'nai mitzvahs, bar mitzvahs for the boys or bat mitzvahs for the girls?

Pardon?

Did the children have a bar mitzvah or a bat mitzvah?

They had all of the same. The boys were bar mitzvahed and the girls were bat mitzvahs. Yes they were.

What was that like in Tacoma? You know, these days, usually you have the ceremony in the synagogue, and then a lot of children have big parties. But what was it like back then for your children?

Well, you're you're asking me to research how many years ago? Because my oldest son is 68, so he would have been bar mitzvahed. Um, uh, uh, 50, 55 years ago. That's a long time. Well, as I recall, we had a very nice bar mitzvah at the and bat mitzvahs, and we would have the children would have parties thereafter. Put it that way. Okay.

Got it.

So everybody had a good time.

Excellent. And what about. Were the kids involved in any youth groups when they were younger? Well, they.

They they were my oldest son, Mark. Um, he was an Eagle Scout, as is his son. And, um, I'm trying to remember they were busy. The girls were busy with campfire girls, and Marvin was a scout for a period of of time. And as far as Jewish activities at at the synagogue, they they all well, they they belonged to see there was a from from Seattle there was what a Catholic what you call it anymore. There was a Jewish organization that the kids were involved with to some degree, but I don't remember the name of them.

Okay, maybe B'nai B'rith. Uh, like Bebe.

Bebe, Bebe, Bebe. Y'know. Okay.

And then as far as the Jewish community in general in Tacoma, was there anything Jewish outside of the synagogue?

No.

No. Okay.

And would you say that the majority of.

Oh, excuse me. That's not correct there. They've had a, um, a Jewish community fund for many, many years to collect money. And we had a big organization and they still do have a very, very active Jewish community fund in Tacoma. Okay.

And would you say the majority of Jews in Tacoma did belong to the synagogue? Was it a high affiliation rate?

Well, I know the ones that did. So I would, uh, that's a very good question, because you don't know. You don't know who's Jewish. You don't know who isn't Jewish. But, uh, for a city the size of Tacoma, I would say probably, uh, a fair amount did belong. But you're asking me numbers I have no knowledge of.

Right, right.

And then what was it like being so you you grew up in Seattle. You were part of, uh, temple de Hirsch and part of Seattle's Jewish community as a young person. And then you moved to Tacoma with your for a job and with your family. What was it? What was the difference between the Tacoma Jewish community or being a Jew in Tacoma versus Seattle?

Well, we were we were quite young at those was in those years, I think I was probably about 29 when we moved to Tacoma. So we became we became acquainted with, with a lot of Tacoma Jews, and we had a, a fairly large group that we would play bridge together. The women would play mahjong, we'd play poker. We had three, I think, three different, uh, groups that we would socialize with. So we had a very active social life in Tacoma.

And was that through the synagogue? Yes.

All Jewish, all all members of the synagogue.

But did the synagogue sponsor those? You know, the bridge group, the mahjong group?

That was just our own people. We would find that we had something in common with and and associated with.

So you mentioned, um, the man that you worked for.

Mr. Sussman. Sussman. Lesley Sussman.

That sounds like a Jewish name to me.

Well, there they were very active in the Jewish community, the Sussman's. Unfortunately, uh, their daughter passed away a few years ago. Their son is an attorney in New York. He's been in New York for many, many years. And so their family and and they had a large family in Tacoma. But to the best of my knowledge, there is pretty much all dissipated now. But we'll go back a lot of years.

Absolutely. Were there quite, quite a number of Jews that owned businesses in Tacoma.

Well, there were, there were, there were a few. There were they were mostly the retail business. There were a few that had clothing stores. There were a few that had pawnshops. Uh, there were, uh, the Simon family were the scrap metal business as as the Sussman family was. And, uh, then there was Floyd Lampkin. He had a, uh, a surplus store and, um, uh oh, let me think, um, the waxes, they, they, um, ended up with a rather large, uh, surplus or surplus steel or steel steel business, uh, where they sell, sell steel products. And I would say there were a few others in miscellaneous Latest businesses. So probably you know, not I don't know about numbers, but I'm just thinking offhand of, of maybe 10 or 12 of us who were who were in various businesses in Tacoma and Pipe.

Was that another one?

Pardon?

The Rosens?

Yes. Oh, I didn't think about them. They were in the they had the plumbing business. Yes. There had a very large business. Forgot about them.

You have any sense as to why there were so many? I mean, okay, let's let's just say whatever a dozen or so Jewish businesses. Was it just opportunity? Was it the inability to get jobs elsewhere? Any sense of that?

Well, I think it's a little bit of everything. I think that, you know, when it's it's the technology Today and the technology 60 and 70 years ago. There's there is absolutely, totally different. And most, most of these people, uh, not all of them. Some of them had college education, some did not. And it was their opportunity to make a living. And it's totally different today because because there was you'd start a small business and you'd try to survive. And in most cases, these people, they worked hard, they worked put in many, many hours a week and they earned a living and scrounged out of business. What else could I say? Um.

What was the reaction from the rest of the community towards the Jewish businesses? Were they well supported by the rest of the community?

Well, that's a I don't have the slightest idea. I know that if people needed plumbing supplies, they went to Rosen, and if they needed other supplies, they need retail. They went to the retail clothing stores downtown. And and I suppose a lot of them went to pawn shops to pawn their products. And the businesses were there and they thrived.

Excellent. And what about any antisemitism? Did you experience any antisemitism?

Well, you always experience a little bit, but you have to ignore it and move along.

Okay.

So Marty, I'm going to switch the, um, the direction a little bit. And I want to ask you a little bit more about your, your work and your and your business. So you went to work for Sussman. Tell me about. And you rose to a management position. What happened after that?

Well, what happened after that? In, um, in 1981, uh, Mr. Sussman sold the business to a Portland firm, Acme Trading and Supply. And it was required that I take a five year contract to consummate the sale. After a year and a half, I. I, I did not care for the new management. And I resigned from the business and started my own business, started brokering a little bit of scrap metal through some of the clients I knew in Asia, in Taiwan and Korea, Japan, etcetera. And was brokering that. And, um, in 1988, uh, Jody and I. With some friends of ours, took a trip to Europe. And and my son Marvin, who had another job, asked, asked if he'd want to come in, if he was interested in, uh, if he would like to answer the phone for me. I said, sure, that'd be great. And when we came home, uh, we enjoyed our relationship together, and, um, and I wanted I was always interested in importing some products from Asia to sell to steel mills in the country. So I hired a retired Purchasing agent from Bethlehem Steel. And we started importing graphite electrodes, some of which from Europe. And. And then I went to Asia. I spent quite a bit of time finding people there and eventually developed a, a, a relationship with some people in Beijing and started importing products from Asia. And that business has grown over the years. And, uh, unfortunately, my son Mark has become ill recently and had to retire. So my youngest son, Marvin, is now sole owner of that business, which has become rather large.

Wow. Good.

Good for you.

That's good.

What do you think about that? The fact that, you know, you were you were able to start this business and it's grown.

Well, it just happened to work out. So you don't know. But I was just. I just enjoyed what I did.

Excellent.

And I still enjoy life.

Great.

And are you are you personally still involved in the business at all?

No, I, I retired, I turned it over to them a few years ago.

Got it.

You mentioned you graduated from the UW.

Right.

What was your major?

Economics.

Got it. Okay. Nice.

Um, okay. What else do you want to tell me about your life? Well, you have my undivided attention. What am I missing here?

All I can say is, is I, I, I was very fortunate to to meet to marry a wonderful person and we had a wonderful life. And as I say, we raised five wonderful children. They're all excellent people. We, Joni and I, Joni unfortunately passed away about six months ago. And she'd been quite ill with dementia and other physical problems. And we have ten grandchildren, all of whom are spread around the country and actively employed individually from age 25 to age 38. And two great grandchildren, one of which was born, ironically, the same morning that Joni passed away. And so she's just six months old. So we have the two great grandchildren and have a wonderful family. We've done a fair a fair amount of traveling. We've seen a lot of good things, and I've had a wonderful life. And I still and I'm still having a wonderful life.

Good for you.

In fact, I have my, uh, my son and my two great grandsons. My two grandchildren are bringing dinner over tonight. So how much better could it be?

Excellent. Um.

Tell me a little bit more about Joni. Um, where? Where she was born. And I know you.

You.

Joni was was born also in Los Angeles. She was born May 13th, 1931, and her parents came back up to Seattle. Her maiden name was flax. Cass. And, uh, there are also a family that from Seattle for many, many years. Her mother was born in Brooklyn, and her father was born, uh, in England on the whatever the river is on the Tyne where they have the coal mines. And he came to he came to the United States, I think, in 1906 or something like that. And there were a wonderful family. Unfortunately, Joni's brother was an Air Force pilot, and his plane crashed, and he was killed when he was 28 years of age. And so my the Flaxes were that was a very tragic situation for them. And um, we've just had a good life. I don't know what else to say.

Excellent, excellent. Well, Marty, this has been a pleasure. I appreciate you filling me in on your life and a little bit about Joanie's life and the, uh, and the Tacoma Jewish community. Um, it's all important for the Washington State Jewish Historical Society to capture all of this information, um, because it's all part of our our Jewish heritage in this state. And, uh.

Right.

You know, it's important we don't we don't have a Jewish newspaper anymore, unfortunately. So we're missing a lot of the.

Newspapers seem to be hard to hard to come by anymore.

Exactly, exactly.

Well, you're very welcome. It's very nice meeting you. And I wish you well.

Thank you so much. We're. I'm going to, um. I'm going to hit the stop record right now. Bear with me a second.