So, uh, I have been the director for the Gonzaga Center for the Study of Hate. And because of that, I've had the opportunity to work with a lot of incredibly resilient individuals who stand up and say it, we have an obligation and a duty to see the dignity in each and every human being. And one of those people that I had the chance to work with is Mary Noble and she said, Carla tells her story of what happened when she was a teenager to schools all over the community. And there's more to Carla's story than just that chapter and how can we learn about Carla as a human being. Carla as a wife. Carla as a mom. Carla as a grandma. Carla is someone who pranks her kids and does all the silly and fun things that we do as human beings, so that we can relate to her and maybe see ourselves in some way as being even more inspired by her. Not as someone who we can't possibly emulate, but someone who opens a pathway for each of us. And so Mary said, would you just go and talk with her? Back in 2019, this is a long time ago, especially when you're dealing with someone who at that time was in their late 90s. And so I met with Carla one day in January, and I know the date clearer than anything because it happened to be my birthday. But it was a Wednesday, and I didn't think much about it. I was going to work, and I opened the door to Carla's home so we could start our conversation. And the first thing she said to me was, happy birthday. And I thought, how does this woman know that it's my birthday? And she had been on Facebook before 8 a.m. in the morning and saw that it was my birthday that day, and just her commitment to knowing who you are and what your story is. When she's the star of the moment, she's the rock star. Just really speaks to who she is as a human being. And so I got to know her. And then of course, Covid hit. And so we stopped doing anything in person during that time period. But I also get to work with this incredible filmmaker named Clement Lye for the classes that I teach, and he helps to develop video for those classes. So I said, Clement, would you bring a camera by? Could you help record my conversations with Carla? And after we started recording in 2022, Clement bought more than just one camera. He brought mics and lights, and so Carla allowed us to follow her and her family around for about two years. And so it wasn't until January of 2025 that the film was actually finished.